"you are so not the lawyer type...like at all. no, seriously..how are you in law school?"
good question. i get it a lot. i still can't really answer it other than to start out with "well? my parents..."
anyway, my great mood is more than obvious, isn't it?
thus, i've been trying to avoid most face-to-face interactions until this malaise of "holy fuck, i hate this" passess, so imagine my shock when i sat down in my theories of justice class and found out the format of the class is group discussion/debate.
joy.
the professor started asking questions, and naturally things kind of took on their own shade of brio...and as people interjected and interrupted and contended--like all good lawyers are trained to do, because even if you do agree, you can't let someone off without some kind of challenge and without some kind of effort to make them look retarded in front of the all mighty professor--i managed to sit in my little corner and just hide my rolling eyes behind my uber ugly green laptop. the question was "what is justice?" and for some reason the various definitions of it people gave all involved the word "god"
until the professor remembered i existed, and what sucks is that i know him from jsla and i've actually had conversations with the guy...so, unlike most of my other professors who think i'm a dumbfuck because i never bother to volunteer and i hardly ever really pay attention, he knows i have an ounce of synaptic glory going on in my head.
"e, what do you think about the whole thing?"
i look up from my laptop sporting the mighty awesome deer-in-headlights look and i ever so quietly say: "well i think the entire discussion is based upon a huge assumption that the negation of which pretty much ends the discussion." [fyi to all people in school, it seems that if you are quiet when you answer questions and hard to hear, the professor leaves you the fuck alone for the rest of the semester and for any future classes. it's mighty tough to play meek, but very much worth it if you hate talking in class like i do]
"and what assumption is that?"
"the assumption that there is a god. you can't define something concretly if you place the basic premise of that definition on something that the majority of people don't believe in to an equal and quantifiable extent, and for which there is no proof of to begin with. if you base the definition of justice on acts of divinity and devine mercy, then that justice will never apply to anyone who doesn't believe in a judeo-christian diety, or arguably to those who to believe in that kind of diety""then, how would you define justice?"
"some kind of act that is controlled by one person in relation to another. it's not an injustice to be a certain race, but it is an injustice when race becomes a determining factor by an employer when they hire. no one can control their race or ethnicity, but they can control how they re-act to race or ethnicity when relating to others.""so, would you say that it's a greater injustice for an innocent person to be punished than for a group of guilty people to go unpunished?"
"i would say the greater injustice would be to let the group of guilty people go unpunished."and that's about when my class launched a huge attack on me, and that' sabout when my lack-of-participation creed was codified in my little mind. i did, however, get one final chance to mildly defend myself against a group of twenty grade thirsty idiots:
"no one wants to assume that people aren't on a equal playing feild, but that's not pragmatic at all. justice evolves from an aggregate of morals, ethics, and standards of a people that come together to form a society, and justice is set-up as a means of protection against a breach of those morals, ethics, and standards. if ten guilty people go un-punished, then there isn't just injustice, there's no justice at all and the entire system is pointless. if one innocent person is punished, all the while those ten guilty individuals are punished too, then the innocent individual's injustice is trumped by society's overall justice in having ten guilty individuals take responsibility for their wrong.""she's right. justice is set up by society and is usually implemented for society."
yea, that's right. take that you legal whores and bitches! the chick with the ugly ass green laptop who never says a word in any class just took y'all down. *flexes and grrrs*
right. so, after being pretty much verbally assualted by a bunch of my "asshole peers" [that's just for you wes] i went to subway to get my grub on...because nothing builds an appetite like defending yourself....and, well not eating breakfast or lunch.
i walk on into the lovely and awesomely ghetto fabulous subway, and i'm standing behind the counter filling in some paperwork for work, and i'm standing there and waiting for the dude behind the counter to put down is psp and do his fucking job...and about five minutes into me waiting he looks up and goes: "do you want something?"
"no! i just walked into a fucking subway because the purdy colors on the menu make me smile, and the disgusting yellow walls have a calming effect on me.goddamnit! there really is an epedemic of douchebaggery, isn't there?!
20 comments:
Damn smart girl putting the smack down. Woman, get in the kitchen and bake me some pie.
the answer to the very last line you wrote is a very simple and straight-to-the-point, "fuck yes!"
Try this one on for size…
Justice is an amorphous social construction, which we ourselves have created (externalized), given reality of it’s own (objectification), then power over us (internalization).
Whether your individual notion of justice has its foundation in an objectified deity, some social contract, or other… at the end of the day, it is the collective amalgamation of society’s sense of justice that prevails in our system.
Plowed?
In other words E, the needs of the many are outweighed by the needs of the few, or the one.
Vulcans fucking rock!
And I bet he was pissed that you didn't tip him.
You're all wrong....Justice is...a Chuck Norris Round-house kick to the face. That's the only definition you need...LOL.
Be my lawyer?
I have no legal problems, nor do I plan on having any, but just in case, k?
You rock!
Epidemic of douchebaggery absolutely.
It makes us fucktards look sooo much better in comparison.
So you're a smart submissive feisty thing. Noted.
I got through chapter 2 of knot tying for dummies last night before I realized that I had no string to practice so I used spaghetti.
Sorry I had you sahara, I have a bucket of water.
I remember law school.
May the shwartz be with you!
hmmmm...intersting....
I would have said "Whatcha playing? Cool, can I see? ( holding out my hand all nice like ) ..stupid hands it over...
"OK, now make my fucking sandwich dickhead before I toss this techno crap to the floor and jump up and down on it. Since I've been standing here almost loosing my desire to eat this crap. The nearly $200 bucks you popped on this say you will do as I say."
then wink
Thatguy: kitchen? pie? who the fuck do you think you're talking to?!
Carlos: thank you! i've been searching for the answer to that life mystery for some time now.
Pyro: haha i doubt you'd laugh. i'm really fuckin' boring. i can win money for intellectual bitch slapping? no shit! how?!! and yea, that subway dude is a fucking idiot. he should covet his job as a sandwhich artist, cause he ain't going much higher up in the career food chain.
Knight: i object. muhaha
Flounder: tip? at fucking subway? you've got to be kidding me...people tip there?!
Chris: i'm so going to write that in my paper! and when i fail, guess who's moving in with you? =)
Robynb: i will gladly be your lawyer, and i'll even waive the retainer fee!
Shawn: pass the water. and you can tie me up with spaghetti anytime, stud muffin.
Kitty: save me!
Atl lg: i'd steal it over destroying it. just ask to see it, then say "thanks, this is better than a sandwich" and walk out. i may have to try that.
Yeah, I'd be gunning for you too. Prefering to punish wrongdoers over freeing the innocent is a fairly fascist thing to say.
But, you know, maybe if you just let them see more cleavage, it'll be ok.
I came across a quote today that I thought you'd appreciate. John Adams would've disagreed with you.
"We find in the rules laid down by the greatest English judges, who have been the brightest of mankind, [that] we are to look upon it as more beneficial that many guilty persons should escape unpunished than one innocent person should suffer. The reason is because it is of more importance to [the] community that innocence should be protected than it is that guilt should be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in the world that all of them cannot be punished, and many times they happen in such a manner that it is not of much consequence to the public whether they are punished or not. But when innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, especially to die, the subject will exclaim, “It is immaterial to me whether I behave well or ill, for virtue itself is no security.” And if such sentiment as this should take place in the mind of the subject there would be an end to all security whatsoever."
-John Adams, final argument in defense of British soldiers accused of committing murder at the Boston Massacre-
Sotto: yup! a lil sponge action ;)
Hedge: i can't show cleavage! i have to act all professional and shit...at least until mid semester. then bring on the pj's and sweatshirts!
Vlad: eh, what the fuck did he know? haha
MJ: if i had a shirt i would willing rip hogan-style i'd be all over it, but until then...smirk all the way :)
well done, Elle. And in answer to the last question, hells yes.
"STUD MUFFIN"
How'd you know I just had my ass cheek pierced with a 20lb dumbell?
Seriously.. now, for you babe, I do have my junk in the trunk.
Consider yourself wet.
You're welcome to move in with me...my wife and I could have some interesting times with you...:0
This made me think of you. Not the picture, just the quote.
Trouble: i'm proud of myself, despite what john adams may have said way back when ;)
Shawn: i thought you had your butt cheeks pierced together. damnit, why must you torment me so?
Chris: haha i can cook and clean for you! that's a pretty sweet deal. *looks innocent*
Flounder: hahahaha! that's awesome! i must put that on my blog..somehow. hmmm
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